# Cocktails and mixed drinks **URL:** https://spiritsandcocktails.community/c/cocktails/6.md [Latest](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/latest.md) · [Categories](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/categories.md) · [Tags](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/tags.md) --- ## [About the Cocktails and mixed drinks category](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/about-the-cocktails-and-mixed-drinks-category/13)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 0
Open discussion of particular recipes, preparations & techniques --- ## [Rum in France](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/rum-in-france/1347)
**Author:** [@EvanD](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/EvanD)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 22, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/rum-in-france/1347 "2026-09-22T20:52:56Z")
I was wondering which rum to use in this recipe from “Bariana”: Martin’s Index calls for aged rhum agricole here. Going through Bariana, I count five instances of “rhum Jamaïque,” six of “rhum vieux,” three of “bon r… --- ## [Champagne Cocktail](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/champagne-cocktail/1297)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [September 10, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/champagne-cocktail/1297 "2026-09-10T22:56:13Z")
Irritated that I wasn’t easily locating the text that first described the Champagne Cocktail, I dug it up and provide it here. This is pages 62 and 63 of Panama in 1855, a travelogue by Robert Tomes, published by Harper… --- ## [Gomme/Gum Syrup](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/gomme-gum-syrup/1342)
**Author:** [@JRCX](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/JRCX)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [September 10, 2026, 1:22am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/gomme-gum-syrup/1342 "2026-09-10T01:22:05Z")
I bought some food grade gum arabic and was wondering if anyone had a recipe to make a small (half cup/5 ounce) batch of it to try in some cocktails off the app that use it. On a different note, I think I’ve tried just … --- ## [Categorizing mixed drinks](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/categorizing-mixed-drinks/315)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 37\ **Last updated:** [September 9, 2026, 3:45am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/categorizing-mixed-drinks/315 "2026-09-09T03:45:05Z")
As it goes, we started out in the late 19th Century with all these drink categories (some a bit stunted, some a bit redundant): cobbler cocktail collins cooler crusta daisy eggnog fix fizz flip frappe highball julep ne… --- ## [Cocktail visualizations](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/cocktail-visualizations/1267)
**Author:** [@BrianH](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/BrianH)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [September 7, 2026, 1:07pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/cocktail-visualizations/1267 "2026-09-07T13:07:10Z")
Which cocktail books or bar menus would you say have particularly iconic, insightful, or idiosyncratic ways of visualizing cocktails? I.e., not just trying to represent the appearance of the finished drink, but to tell y… --- ## [The Comic Book History of the Cocktail](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-comic-book-history-of-the-cocktail/1236)
**Author:** [@GoodSpiritsNews](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/GoodSpiritsNews)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [September 1, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-comic-book-history-of-the-cocktail/1236 "2026-09-01T22:02:53Z")
I was going to title this post “Will Wondrich’s Never Cease” but then thought better of it. Our esteemed friend David Wondrich has a new book out which I’ve been reading this week. It’s surprisingly deep and the pacing … --- ## [The Martini Now / Cocktail Colloquy](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-martini-now-cocktail-colloquy/1332)
**Author:** [@RobertSimonson](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/RobertSimonson)\ **Replies:** 20\ **Last updated:** [August 31, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-martini-now-cocktail-colloquy/1332 "2026-08-31T17:58:03Z")
I figured if anybody might be interested in this, it would be this community. I asked Lowell Edmunds, author of the Martini book “The Silver Bullet,” to write something new about the Martini for The Mix. It was published… --- ## [Stone Sours](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/stone-sours/202)
**Author:** [@Splificator](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/Splificator)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [August 28, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/stone-sours/202 "2026-08-28T18:25:10Z")
Okay, here’s a conundrum. At least since the 1980s, a Stone Sour has been, as the indispensable 1988 Sardi’s Bar Guide puts it, “of course, a sour with the addition of orange juice.” That’s not how Jacques Straub saw it … --- ## [Coffee as an Ingredient](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/coffee-as-an-ingredient/1336)
**Author:** [@JRCX](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/JRCX)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 4:48am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/coffee-as-an-ingredient/1336 "2026-08-06T04:48:24Z")
The other day I saw a segment where Martha Stewart said never throw brewed coffee away, put it in to ice cube trays, freeze it, and serve it with more coffee and cream for iced coffee in the summer. I can definitely tast… --- ## [Clover Club Cocktail / Clover Leaf](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/clover-club-cocktail-clover-leaf/1214)
**Author:** [@CurrerBachman](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/CurrerBachman)\ **Replies:** 36\ **Last updated:** [August 4, 2026, 12:23pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/clover-club-cocktail-clover-leaf/1214 "2026-08-04T12:23:56Z")
The commonly told origin story of the Clover Club cocktail is that it was the signature drink of the eponymous Philadelphia social association, who met at the Bellevue-Stratford Hotel. However, I was recently watching a … --- ## [À La Louisiane Cocktail](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/a-la-louisiane-cocktail/1318)
**Author:** [@JRCX](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/JRCX)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/a-la-louisiane-cocktail/1318 "2026-08-03T14:50:23Z")
Yesterday I had the pleasure of attending a fellow cocktail enthusiast’s wedding at Maison Premiere in Brooklyn. Amongst the guests were some other cocktail enthusiasts as well. Of the 7 drinks one stood out the most wa… --- ## [Banana Daiquiri](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/banana-daiquiri/1329)
**Author:** [@CurrerBachman](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/CurrerBachman)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [July 31, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/banana-daiquiri/1329 "2026-07-31T23:18:51Z")
For some God forsaken reason, I’ve found myself looking into the history of the Banana Daiquiri (blended or otherwise) and scrutinizing the veracity of the various claims of various inventors. 1: George Soule, Mountaint… --- ## [Chronology of Drinks](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/chronology-of-drinks/1330)
**Author:** [@GoodSpiritsNews](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/GoodSpiritsNews)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [July 24, 2026, 1:34am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/chronology-of-drinks/1330 "2026-07-24T01:34:14Z")
I know this is a semi-lost cause, but is there a particular resource anyone can recommend that would show a chronology of alcoholic beverages by year, or possibly by decade. i.e. Fish House Punch dates to 1732, the Negr… --- ## [Techniques & Theory Books on Food & Drinks](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/techniques-theory-books-on-food-drinks/1320)
**Author:** [@BookofMorten](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/BookofMorten)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [July 20, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/techniques-theory-books-on-food-drinks/1320 "2026-07-20T11:55:39Z")
I was unable to find another thread for this so starting this one. Apologies if it’s duplicated elsewhere but I don’t believe this fits into any of the canon discussions. What is believed to be the most influential book… --- ## [Antedating the Martini](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/antedating-the-martini/690)
**Author:** [@Splificator](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/Splificator)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [July 18, 2026, 4:17pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/antedating-the-martini/690 "2026-07-18T16:17:34Z")
Until a few weeks ago, the earliest known mention of the Martini was the “Martinez Cocktail” found in the Modern Bartenders’ Guide by O. H. Byron, whoever he was, published by the Excelsior Publishing House of New York i… --- ## [Calculating Alcohol Content](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/calculating-alcohol-content/1274)
**Author:** [@JRCX](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/JRCX)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [July 10, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/calculating-alcohol-content/1274 "2026-07-10T15:49:39Z")
I am not very good at math and/or formulas, so I was curious to know what the “toxicity” or alcoholic content would be of a cocktail of these proportions: 1.5 ounces Venezuelan Rum 0.5 ounces sweet vermouth 1 teaspoon… --- ## [George Lurie’s “Here’s How” (1933)](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/george-lurie-s-here-s-how-1933/1327)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [July 7, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/george-lurie-s-here-s-how-1933/1327 "2026-07-07T18:46:13Z")
I hadn’t given this book even a first look before today, but Doug Stailey drew my attention to it indirectly regarding the Bebbo cocktail. As Stailey pointed out, the whole thing shamelessly plagiarizes Boothby’s World … --- ## [The degeneration of the classics due to mistaken intent or technique](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-degeneration-of-the-classics-due-to-mistaken-intent-or-technique/401)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [June 29, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/the-degeneration-of-the-classics-due-to-mistaken-intent-or-technique/401 "2026-06-29T13:18:13Z")
@francois’ delightful op-ed (below) feels particularly timely to me in the wake of the “swizzle” (not actually a swizzle, but a middling punch served over crushed ice) I was served yesterday evening. Even I get confus… --- ## [Horse's Neck Peeler](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/horses-neck-peeler/1314)
**Author:** [@GoodSpiritsNews](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/GoodSpiritsNews)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [June 4, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/horses-neck-peeler/1314 "2026-06-04T21:12:19Z")
Anyone have any recommendations? I’ve tried a few different options and haven’t gotten great results. --- ## [Cameron's Kick](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/camerons-kick/1227)
**Author:** [@armin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/armin)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [June 2, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/camerons-kick/1227 "2026-06-02T15:48:53Z")
I wanted to ask you if you know more about Cameron’s Kick. It’s a drink from the 1920s that is underrated. Because it has something unique. My recipe: 30 ml Talisker 57° Scotch Whisky 30 ml Green Spot Irish Whiskey, … --- ## [Vermouth Longevity](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/vermouth-longevity/1243)
**Author:** [@JRCX](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/JRCX)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [June 2, 2026, 3:27pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/vermouth-longevity/1243 "2026-06-02T15:27:37Z")
I did a search but could not find a basic time limit and/or “expiration” as to when an opened 375ml bottle of sweet (or dry) vermouth should last for in the fridge. A week? Month? Some say several months but I can certai… --- ## [Gargoyle Cocktail](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/gargoyle-cocktail/494)
**Author:** [@RobertSimonson](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/RobertSimonson)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [May 30, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/gargoyle-cocktail/494 "2026-05-30T17:59:28Z")
In the 1934 London book “1700 Cocktails for the Man Behind the Bar,” there is a Gargoyle Cocktail No. 1 and No. 2. Does anyone know if either drink had anything to do with the private club The Gargoyle Club that thrived … --- ## [Combinación](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/combinacion/182)
**Author:** [@francois](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/francois)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [May 10, 2026, 8:08am UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/combinacion/182 "2026-05-10T08:08:17Z")
--- ## [UKBG (United Kingdom Bartenders Guild)](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/ukbg-united-kingdom-bartenders-guild/1305)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [April 15, 2026, 9:43pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/ukbg-united-kingdom-bartenders-guild/1305 "2026-04-15T21:43:06Z")
Starting a UKBG thread with a simple question: did they have a reliable standard jigger size? (Their books are all expressed in percentages or fractions.) Gills? The jigger entry in the OCSC mentions the 1/3 gill (50ml) … --- ## [Engineered citrus juice (“Superjuice”)](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/engineered-citrus-juice-superjuice/477)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 43\ **Last updated:** [April 1, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/engineered-citrus-juice-superjuice/477 "2026-04-01T14:52:43Z")
I have not yet researched this topic deeply, but after Wayne Curtis remarked on it on Twitter, I went ahead and made a batch of lime “superjuice”. I simply followed the (loose) directions on this video: collect the pee… --- ## [Progress in mixology circa 2026](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/progress-in-mixology-circa-2026/1302)
**Author:** [@martin](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/martin)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [March 24, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/progress-in-mixology-circa-2026/1302 "2026-03-24T13:47:53Z")
Andrew Bohrer posted on Bluesky this morning. What he wrote struck a chord for me (as someone inside the New York City bubble). Across eleven short posts, Andrew touches on so many aspects of one drink and its context, c… --- ## [When Was the Mimosa Invented?](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/when-was-the-mimosa-invented/1298)
**Author:** [@PhilipGreene](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/PhilipGreene)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/when-was-the-mimosa-invented/1298 "2026-03-19T16:44:27Z")
We all know that the Mimosa and the Buck’s Fizz are essentially the same drink, and the consensus is that the Buck’s Fizz came first, invented circa 1921. The Mimosa is understood as having been invented at the Paris Rit… --- ## [What is "Pepper in Rum"?](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/what-is-pepper-in-rum/1295)
**Author:** [@HHFizz](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/HHFizz)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [March 13, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/what-is-pepper-in-rum/1295 "2026-03-13T12:28:55Z")
Was looking at multiple versions of this chart and was curious as what “pepper in rum” is? I assume rum infused with peppers or peppercorns, but can’t find it mentioned anywhere else in a very brief search I did. --- ## [Peychaud's Bitters "new formula?"](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/peychauds-bitters-new-formula/1286)
**Author:** [@PhilipGreene](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/u/PhilipGreene)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [March 8, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/t/peychauds-bitters-new-formula/1286 "2026-03-08T21:09:31Z")
This ad raises two questions. One, did Peychaud’s Bitters have a different formula during Prohibition, causing it to have a “new formula” starting in 1934? Also, does anyone know anything about this “How to Mix ‘Em” book… [Next page](https://spiritsandcocktails.community/c/cocktails/6.md?page=1)